Clinton was a staff attorney for the Children’s Defense Fund before she met Bill; she spent years as a children’s advocate in both Arkansas and while Bill was president, and pushed for the Education for All Handicapped Children Act, Early Head Start and afterschool programs. She voted for No Child Left Behind but subsequently has been critical of its implementation and unfunded mandates. Clinton would target at-risk kids and add to afterschool programs, and replace NCLB. She would make universal preschool available for 4-year-olds, expand Head Start and special-ed programs (dear to my heart, as they are woefully underfunded).
Obama helped increase college Pell Grants from the Senate. His educational program differs by reforming NCLB with full funding, and adding programs for preschoolers down to infancy. He would hire more teachers and expand Head Start and Early Head Start (ironically ;). He would also eliminate financial aid applications in favor of sending tax returns directly to colleges.
Both candidates would create a college tuition tax credit.
1 points to Clinton for her two decades working in the field, draw on NCLB and preschool programs, minus a half on Obama for what I think is a bad idea on college financial aid. Edge to Clinton.
Immigration: Little/no difference, both favor tougher enforcement along with earned legalization, standard Democratic stances. Driver’s licenses for undocumented immigrants – proposal by Obama, has gotten mixed reviews. Obama argues that he understands the issue better as the son of an immigrant. Clinton argues that she understands health and immigrant family issues better from years of legislation and experience. Take your pick, I call it a draw overall.
Iraq/Iran
Both candidates have criticized the conduct of the Iraq war. Clinton voted for AUMF and subsequent funding bills; Obama was not in Congress in 2003, but was critical of AUMF at that time (but has also voted for subsequent funding bills). Both would start Iraq withdrawals within 30-60 days, attempt new regional diplomacy and work with the UN to help Iraqi refugees.
Both candidates would close down the Guantanamo detention center, ban the use of torture, and restore habeas corpus. Unlike Clinton, however, Obama agrees with the current administration (http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060928-remarks_of_sena_9/index.php ) that military courts rather than federal judges should be charged with trying detainees.
I attribute AUMF to broad deception by the current administation, and Iraq is a terrible mess, but it’s a done deal. Both candidates have similar approaches to getting out and to the excesses of the Bush WoT. Point to Obama for getting Iraq right, subtract a half for military courts, slight edge to him overall.
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branchandroot
OK, you asked for it... part 1
Date: 2008-02-08 11:16 am (UTC)Education
Clinton was a staff attorney for the Children’s Defense Fund before she met Bill; she spent years as a children’s advocate in both Arkansas and while Bill was president, and pushed for the Education for All Handicapped Children Act, Early Head Start and afterschool programs. She voted for No Child Left Behind but subsequently has been critical of its implementation and unfunded mandates. Clinton would target at-risk kids and add to afterschool programs, and replace NCLB. She would make universal preschool available for 4-year-olds, expand Head Start and special-ed programs (dear to my heart, as they are woefully underfunded).
Obama helped increase college Pell Grants from the Senate. His educational program differs by reforming NCLB with full funding, and adding programs for preschoolers down to infancy. He would hire more teachers and expand Head Start and Early Head Start (ironically ;). He would also eliminate financial aid applications in favor of sending tax returns directly to colleges.
Both candidates would create a college tuition tax credit.
1 points to Clinton for her two decades working in the field, draw on NCLB and preschool programs, minus a half on Obama for what I think is a bad idea on college financial aid. Edge to Clinton.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/education/
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/education/
Immigration: Little/no difference, both favor tougher enforcement along with earned legalization, standard Democratic stances. Driver’s licenses for undocumented immigrants – proposal by Obama, has gotten mixed reviews. Obama argues that he understands the issue better as the son of an immigrant. Clinton argues that she understands health and immigrant family issues better from years of legislation and experience. Take your pick, I call it a draw overall.
Iraq/Iran
Both candidates have criticized the conduct of the Iraq war. Clinton voted for AUMF and subsequent funding bills; Obama was not in Congress in 2003, but was critical of AUMF at that time (but has also voted for subsequent funding bills). Both would start Iraq withdrawals within 30-60 days, attempt new regional diplomacy and work with the UN to help Iraqi refugees.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/iraq/
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/
Both candidates would close down the Guantanamo detention center, ban the use of torture, and restore habeas corpus. Unlike Clinton, however, Obama agrees with the current administration (http://obama.senate.gov/speech/060928-remarks_of_sena_9/index.php ) that military courts rather than federal judges should be charged with trying detainees.
I attribute AUMF to broad deception by the current administation, and Iraq is a terrible mess, but it’s a done deal. Both candidates have similar approaches to getting out and to the excesses of the Bush WoT. Point to Obama for getting Iraq right, subtract a half for military courts, slight edge to him overall.